Heavy Arrow

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Heavy Arrow

Postby Jhenna » Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:22 pm

Does anyone know if there is a message when Heave Arrow hits? Lucy doesn't have it listed. I'd like to make an audio trigger to call my attention to frequency and damage. Thank you!
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Re: Heavy Arrow

Postby Underbrush » Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:48 pm

I watched my logs the other night firing at a dummy, didn't see it.
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Re: Heavy Arrow

Postby Tadenea » Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:29 pm

you do see a cast message, it can even twincast (seen this on Rot Raid)

something I think needs testing is according to spell file it has 100 range, need to find out if it actually has 100 range or can fire further away
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Re: Heavy Arrow

Postby Schadenfreude » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:05 pm

Jhenna wrote:Does anyone know if there is a message when Heave Arrow hits? Lucy doesn't have it listed. I'd like to make an audio trigger to call my attention to frequency and damage. Thank you!


Based on Beta "Heavy arrow" will work for GINA or whatever you use. Both it and the stun chance from kicks were pretty uncommon.

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Re: Heavy Arrow

Postby Arynquad » Sun Jun 22, 2014 12:17 am

The exact text is "You begin casting Heavy Arrow.". Alla/Lucy are currently listing it incorrectly as "You unleash a Heavy Arrow!".

I did a short 29-min /autofire session on a dummy for kicks. Sham and self buffs only. Heavy Arrow fired 11 times. Low was 15655, high was 59897, avg was 37755. Longest stretch w/o a proc was a (staggering) 11 minutes, with the following 6 minutes featuring 4 procs. So yeah, random proc is random.
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Re: Heavy Arrow

Postby Jhenna » Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:17 pm

Thank you!

Sounds like it triggers less than headshot. Ugh!
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Re: Heavy Arrow

Postby Tadenea » Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:59 pm

twincasts about half the time for me about which makes it nice also
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Re: Heavy Arrow

Postby Arahgorn » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:22 am

Yes, Heavy Arrow is super random. I've seen 5+ minutes stretches of nothing on a consistent basis. However if it happens to land under full disc conditions (third spire, no zerker aura), it can critical for 204k for me. With the archery debuff on plus full disc (third spire, no zerker aura), 284k critical. With the shaman epic running, archery debuff and full disc, 421k critical. I had full support during the 421k critical. That was on the HP in the ToRot raid.

Here is the spell data compared to Forecasted and Focused:
(spell info from Raidloot.com)

Forecasted Shots Rk3
Range: 200'
Resist: Unresistable
1: Archery Attack for 258 with 400% Accuracy Mod
2: Archery Attack for 258 with 450% Accuracy Mod
3: Archery Attack for 226 with 500% Accuracy Mod
4: Archery Attack for 226 with 600% Accuracy Mod
5: Cast: Called Shots Effect

Focused Rain of Arrows Rk3
Range: 150'
Resist: Unresistable
1: Archery Attack for 224 with 10000% Accuracy Mod
2: Archery Attack for 224 with 10000% Accuracy Mod
3: Archery Attack for 224 with 10000% Accuracy Mod
4: Archery Attack for 224 with 10000% Accuracy Mod

Heavy Arrow
Range: 350'
Resist: Physical
1: Archery Attack for 1150 with 10000% Accuracy Mod

Any reason it was given a 'Physical' resist instead of unresistable? Would be very lame to have an archery attack get resisted when it already procs at a poor rate. Also, other classes with skill attack procs have them set to unresistable. I really don't see why ours shouldn't.

Heavy Arrow is nearly 4.5 times the strength of the 258 skill attack in Forecasted. I haven't seen my new high critical yet with Pureshot Rk3, but my old high was right around 110k. Under the perfect conditions (which would be rare with the random proc rate), that puts Heavy Arrow around 500k critical maximum. Has anyone seen higher than 421k?
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Re: Heavy Arrow

Postby Ulaian » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:29 pm

Had a 440k critical on Bone Crusher in Neriak 1 yesterday, using Bullseye (next time will be with Pureshot, though). That was with full adps support in group and Guardian of the Forest running, though I'm not 100% certain if I was actually close enough to the zerker to be in aura range.
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Re: Heavy Arrow

Postby Ulaian » Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:55 pm

Forgot to actually follow up on this - currect highest hit for me is 495k, again on Bone Crusher (I don't really use my bow on much other than that), but with Pureshot.
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Re: Heavy Arrow

Postby pleides » Sat May 14, 2016 2:22 am

I just started using this ability and while I have no aspiration to go into parse details like some posters above, I find this AA does seem inconsistent when it triggers. It could be better if say it triggered around every 200/300 shots or so instead of randomly. I guess that would have been too much to expect!
Seems costly at 18 for it to go off less than 1% of the time and on an intermittent basis too.

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