Icy Prism of Avoidance

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Icy Prism of Avoidance

Postby Endo » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:20 am

Is this aug still worth getting these days?

I was gong to go after it, but not sure with all the good AC augs in game now, if the tradeoff/effort is worth it. Seems like a sure thing to get, but no idea on what dodge % is worth vs AC.

Any guesses as to what the +8% dodge is worth in equivelant AC?

1% dodge = ?? AC


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Postby Astroshak » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:25 am

Its a 3 slot aug.

The best slot 3 aug with AC is from LDoN, at what, 8 AC? At least, that's what I get when looking at the old LDoN merchant sorting script thing found at ... I'd go for the dodge. You won't miss the 8 AC.
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Re: Icy Prism of Avoidance

Postby Delbaeth » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:35 am

Endo wrote:Is this aug still worth getting these days?

I was gong to go after it, but not sure with all the good AC augs in game now, if the tradeoff/effort is worth it. Seems like a sure thing to get, but no idea on what dodge % is worth vs AC.

Any guesses as to what the +8% dodge is worth in equivelant AC?

1% dodge = ?? AC


Thanks.


How much AC can you get in a type 3 slot?

Some people over at The Steal Warrior worked out a formula for dodge/parry/riposte. Some details like exactly how the various stats scale in response to each other are unclear but the 8% seems to work on about 1/2 or 2/3rds of you dodges. How much you dodge varies with how much the mob strikes through. I get 10% on the toughest mobs and 17% or so on those without strikethrough. Anything without strikethrough is trivial at this point so go with 10%. This makes (1/2 to 2/3) of 8% of 10% somewhere close to 0.5% less attacks hitting you.

How much AC is 0.5% attacks avoided worth? Avoidance and mitigation mean different things to your safety so even if I had a good measurement handy for how much AC gives how much less inbound DPS it wouldn't be a good answer. The last time I measured this the old rule of 100 AC gives 1% less average dps was still fairly close but I haven't parsed such things since Underfoot.

Can BiC go in type 3? I never did BiC back in the day and I don't think any others can. This really isn't a choice between AC and dodge but a choice between messing around with LDoN and not or perhaps between 8% dodge and +dmg on a magic dot.
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Postby Endo » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:41 am

Doh, I didn't know it was slot 3. Nevermind then. I have plenty slot3 spots available.

Hmmm, .5% attacks avoided? That means I avoid one out of 200 attacks. Definitely not a noticible effect for the aug these days.

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Postby Ladwenae » Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:28 am

Endo wrote:Doh, I didn't know it was slot 3. Nevermind then. I have plenty slot3 spots available.

Hmmm, .5% attacks avoided? That means I avoid one out of 200 attacks. Definitely not a noticible effect for the aug these days.

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In a game of small numbers then 0.5% is huge...
Going from 22% hits to 21.5% seems quite significant to me.
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Postby Bariag_Stromm » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:05 am

Endo wrote:Doh, I didn't know it was slot 3. Nevermind then. I have plenty slot3 spots available.

Hmmm, .5% attacks avoided? That means I avoid one out of 200 attacks. Definitely not a noticible effect for the aug these days.

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Postby Jhenna » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:31 am

Astroshak wrote:Its a 3 slot aug.

The best slot 3 aug with AC is from LDoN, at what, 8 AC? At least, that's what I get when looking at the old LDoN merchant sorting script thing found at ... I'd go for the dodge. You won't miss the 8 AC.


That list is old. None of the the old type 3 AC augs from Ldon fit in that slot anymore. The change was made back in SoF. I saw this same list and went to buy the 8 AC one and slot 3 was removed.
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Postby Astroshak » Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:43 am

I have not looked at the ldon stuff in ages, myself ... and haven't really paid any attention to any changes made to them items.
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Postby Endo » Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:29 am

Alla's still lists the detail as slot 3...but maybe outdated info I guess.

Are you sure no this? If it has changed what slot is it now?


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Postby Saleren » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:15 pm

Icy Prism still 3, all the AC augs have been changed, to either type 1 or 7, i forget which.

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